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Posted: 08 September 2010 11:42 AM   [ Ignore ]
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When George W. Bush did was unpopular, he was cheered by conservatives who claimed that Bush was doing what was right and that it was a wonderful thing that he didn’t do his job based on subjective opinion polls.

However, when President Obama pushes for healthcare reform (something he campaign on and people elected him to accomplish) the conservatives will say that he should listen to the opinion polls and follow the will of the people.

Why is that? Anyone?

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Posted: 08 September 2010 11:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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People cheered GW because what he did was right.. People oppose obama because what he does is wrong.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 12:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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obama is a socialist Chicago thug, intent on wealth relocation, and pays off the unions as his foot soldiers.. He is a failure, and history will show this.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 01:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Posted: 08 September 2010 01:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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There you go duhhwayne.  Print that out, and put it up on your wall!!!!  : )

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Posted: 08 September 2010 01:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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fred - 08 September 2010 11:50 AM

People cheered GW because what he did was right.. People oppose obama because what he does is wrong.

I am talking about the comments about Bush going against the “will of the people”. Conservatives praised him for doing what he felt was right instead of just being swayed by public opinion.

However, when Obama refuses to be swayed by public opinion and instead does what he feels is right, they are critical of him for “ignoring the will of the people”.

This is not to say that people should not be critical of Obama if they disagree with specific policies. But to argue that it is good for one president to ignore the will of the people and bad for another president to ignore the will of the people is just silly.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 02:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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dirty dan - 08 September 2010 01:26 PM

Daniel Z. - 08 September 2010 01:23 PM
fred - 08 September 2010 11:50 AM
People cheered GW because what he did was right.. People oppose obama because what he does is wrong.

I am talking about the comments about Bush going against the “will of the people”....

For instance?

I happened to be listening to a rebroadcast of a radio show this week on XM this morning. Sean Hannity was a guest on the show and was saying how great it was that George Bush didn’t listen to polls and instead did what he thought was right. He was speaking generally.

Here is Bill Bennet on Hannity and Colmes speaking about Bush and polls

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178673,00.html

“But it really doesn’t matter. What matters is the state not of the polls but the state of his conviction, and his conviction looks pretty clear. “

Remember, Cheney also spoke out and said that you shouldn’t listen to polls. He was applauded by conservatives for that as well.

So why are polls now important to Republicans/Conservatives?

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Posted: 08 September 2010 02:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Daniel Z. - 08 September 2010 02:03 PM

dirty dan - 08 September 2010 01:26 PM
Daniel Z. - 08 September 2010 01:23 PM
fred - 08 September 2010 11:50 AM
People cheered GW because what he did was right.. People oppose obama because what he does is wrong.

I am talking about the comments about Bush going against the “will of the people”....

For instance?

I happened to be listening to a rebroadcast of a radio show this week on XM this morning. Sean Hannity was a guest on the show and was saying how great it was that George Bush didn’t listen to polls and instead did what he thought was right. He was speaking generally.

Here is Bill Bennet on Hannity and Colmes speaking about Bush and polls

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178673,00.html

“But it really doesn’t matter. What matters is the state not of the polls but the state of his conviction, and his conviction looks pretty clear. “

Remember, Cheney also spoke out and said that you shouldn’t listen to polls. He was applauded by conservatives for that as well.

So why are polls now important to Republicans/Conservatives?

That is one of the things I admire about Bush. Even if you thought he was doing the wrong things I think he had the countries best interest at heart. I do not feel that way about Obama.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 02:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Aluminum tubes, no.  But the enslavement of millions, the slaughter of tens of thousands of kurds, the invasion of a neighboring country, yes.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 02:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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DeWayne Guice - 08 September 2010 02:16 PM


best interest?? Invading Iraq because of alluminium tubes was in the best interest of the people?

One thing I think about you DuhWayne is that you are consistent. Consistently stupid and ill informed.

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This is known as “bad luck.” - Robert Heinlein

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Posted: 08 September 2010 02:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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DeWayne Guice - 08 September 2010 02:30 PM

fred - 08 September 2010 02:26 PM
Aluminum tubes, no.  But the enslavement of millions, the slaughter of tens of thousands of kurds, the invasion of a neighboring country, yes.

Was the United States in danger? Was oil reserves part of the reason?

Yes. No.

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This is known as “bad luck.” - Robert Heinlein

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Posted: 08 September 2010 02:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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fred - 08 September 2010 02:26 PM

Aluminum tubes, no.  But the enslavement of millions, the slaughter of tens of thousands of kurds, the invasion of a neighboring country, yes.

Uh, the invasion was a decade earlier.  And if we start invading countries with brutal regimes, where do we stop?  There is no shortage of such countries.

No, Bush/Cheney had another agenda when they invaded Iraq and it had nothing to do with WMD’s or 9/11.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 02:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Big Easy - 08 September 2010 02:48 PM

fred - 08 September 2010 02:26 PM
Aluminum tubes, no.  But the enslavement of millions, the slaughter of tens of thousands of kurds, the invasion of a neighboring country, yes.

Uh, the invasion was a decade earlier.  And if we start invading countries with brutal regimes, where do we stop?  There is no shortage of such countries.

No, Bush/Cheney had another agenda when they invaded Iraq and it had nothing to do with WMD’s or 9/11.

And what might that be big?  Perhaps as troll indicated, bush was after another handwoven barney rug.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 03:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Posted: 08 September 2010 03:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I don’t recall that story on Fox big, give us a link.

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Posted: 08 September 2010 03:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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