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Posted: 30 December 2009 10:52 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Americans went on binges buying guns and ammunition in early 2009, worried that a radical leftist president and Democrat-dominated Congress would violate their Second-Amendment rights to keep and bear arms. The effects? Less murder, robbery, rape, and property crime, according to an FBI report released Monday. This gives the young president and Democrat Congress at least one proud but unintended accomplishment for which they’ll never claim credit.

Indeed, gun buyers were out in droves in late 2008 and early 2009. While it’s easy to infer that increased gun ownership figures align precisely with the drop in crime in the same calendar period, you won’t see that headline in the New York Times, despite their penchant for such inferences about increases in crime coinciding with increasing “guns on the street.”

The gun-buying started shortly before, and then took off after, Obama’s election. The Toronto Star reported a 15% increase of 108,000 more FBI background checks in October 2008 than during the same month in 2007. People were already anticipating the dire consequences of an Obama victory. Then, in November 2008, the number of FBI background checks on applicants buying guns spiked 42% from the previous year. The FBI performed 12.7 million background checks in 2008, compared to 11.2 million in 2007, a 13% increase.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/more_guns_less_crime_in_09.html

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Posted: 23 January 2012 12:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Posted: 23 January 2012 12:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Yes, she too is a gun owner.

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Posted: 24 January 2012 06:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Best President for gun ownership ever?  Hoozah and kudos to President Barak Obama!  Amazing what fear of regulation can do for the industry!  The NRA ought to thank him for this!  I bet the press would cover that!

“While it’s easy to infer that increased gun ownership figures align precisely with the drop in crime in the same calendar period,” an inference is not proof and thus requires more thoughtful discussion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/weekinreview/29liptak.html?pagewanted=all

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Posted: 24 January 2012 02:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Duck thinks the NRA is in the gun manufacturing business. Otherwise, there would be no reason for the NRA to thank the dullard occupying the oval office.

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Posted: 24 January 2012 04:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Daffy Duck - 24 January 2012 06:58 AM

Best President for gun ownership ever?  Hoozah and kudos to President Barak Obama!  Amazing what fear of regulation can do for the industry!  The NRA ought to thank him for this!  I bet the press would cover that!

“While it’s easy to infer that increased gun ownership figures align precisely with the drop in crime in the same calendar period,” an inference is not proof and thus requires more thoughtful discussion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/weekinreview/29liptak.html?pagewanted=all

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Posted: 24 January 2012 06:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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dirty dan - 24 January 2012 02:02 PM

Duck thinks the NRA is in the gun manufacturing business. Otherwise, there would be no reason for the NRA to thank the dullard occupying the oval office.

All those guns being bought and no new NRA memberships? I reckon it is a stretch for you to see the connection, neidermeyer. But since you don’t see the connection… How many gun manufacturers are not contributors to the NRA? ammunition producers? how many distributors? I will confess that I own 3 guns and am not a member. Obama hasn’t come for my guns yet, love saving those membership dues!

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Posted: 24 January 2012 10:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Daffy Duck - 24 January 2012 06:32 PM

dirty dan - 24 January 2012 02:02 PM
Duck thinks the NRA is in the gun manufacturing business. Otherwise, there would be no reason for the NRA to thank the dullard occupying the oval office.

All those guns being bought and no new NRA memberships? I reckon it is a stretch for you to see the connection, neidermeyer. But since you don’t see the connection… How many gun manufacturers are not contributors to the NRA? ammunition producers? how many distributors? I will confess that I own 3 guns and am not a member. Obama hasn’t come for my guns yet, love saving those membership dues!

The left has mostly given up on the gun control issue, at least for the short term.  After costing them the 2000 election, it’s been a major back-burner issue.

Recent history has proven that gun ownership has little correlation to crime.

Looks like us crazy conservatives may have actually been right on this one.

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Posted: 25 January 2012 07:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Recent History Has Proven what ever you think up to say.

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Posted: 25 January 2012 07:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Posted: 25 January 2012 07:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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LaPolitics Commune - 25 January 2012 07:24 AM

Recent History Has Proven what ever you think up to say.

Correlation is not causation, I get that.

However, what good arguments are there FOR gun control that hold up?  What Democrat has one in recent years with gun control as their main platform?

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Posted: 25 January 2012 09:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Daffy Duck - 24 January 2012 06:32 PM

dirty dan - 24 January 2012 02:02 PM
Duck thinks the NRA is in the gun manufacturing business. Otherwise, there would be no reason for the NRA to thank the dullard occupying the oval office.

All those guns being bought and no new NRA memberships? I reckon it is a stretch for you to see the connection, neidermeyer. But since you don’t see the connection… How many gun manufacturers are not contributors to the NRA? ammunition producers? how many distributors? I will confess that I own 3 guns and am not a member. Obama hasn’t come for my guns yet, love saving those membership dues!

Do you think that one needs to be a NRA member to buy a gun? Do you think people feel a need to join the NRA before or after they buy a gun? Exactly what are they teaching you in your libtard school?

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Posted: 25 January 2012 05:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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dirty dan - 25 January 2012 09:07 AM

Daffy Duck - 24 January 2012 06:32 PM
dirty dan - 24 January 2012 02:02 PM
Duck thinks the NRA is in the gun manufacturing business. Otherwise, there would be no reason for the NRA to thank the dullard occupying the oval office.

All those guns being bought and no new NRA memberships? I reckon it is a stretch for you to see the connection, neidermeyer. But since you don’t see the connection… How many gun manufacturers are not contributors to the NRA? ammunition producers? how many distributors? I will confess that I own 3 guns and am not a member. Obama hasn’t come for my guns yet, love saving those membership dues!

Do you think that one needs to be a NRA member to buy a gun? Do you think people feel a need to join the NRA before or after they buy a gun? Exactly what are they teaching you in your libtard school?

Wow, so much for reading comprehension! I’m living proof that you don’t need to be a member of the NRA to own guns! Holy crap, what an idiot!

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Posted: 25 January 2012 08:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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(Reposting because it’s a better question)

Correlation is not causation, I get that.

However, what good arguments are there FOR gun control that hold up?  What Democrat has one in recent years with gun control as their main platform?

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