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Racial views steer some white democrats away from Obama
Posted: 20 September 2008 05:05 PM   [ Ignore ]
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This is an interesting article about a poll to determine the attitude of white democrat and independent voters toward Obama.

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Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them “lazy,” “violent,” responsible for their own troubles.

One of the researchers says this

“There are a lot fewer bigots than there were 50 years ago, but that doesn’t mean there’s only a few bigots,” said Stanford political scientist Paul Sniderman who helped analyze the exhaustive survey.

Now of course he was referring to the white democrats who have sterotypes about blacks. (I wonder how many blacks would agree with some of the statements he presented to the whites in the study?) What he is not referring to as if it not bigoted was his finding that

On the other side of the racial question, the Illinois Democrat is drawing almost unanimous support from blacks

One has to wonder since black support of Obama is essentially unanimous how many votes he is getting from bigoted blacks????

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Posted: 20 September 2008 05:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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http://wonkette.com/402903/402903#more-402903
“In a report sure to spark a national conversation on race…” So awesome. Why is it that when you have a conversation about race, it has to be “national”? Is every citizen required to telephone a stranger from another state, just to talk about race? UPDATE: Oh man, we just now read the full original story, and this is an instant classic from Ron Fournier’s New Associated Press. Highlights below.

Rarely in world journalistic analytical history has a wire report been so consistently terrible on a sentence level. People were paid actual human money to produce some of these fine excerpts:

* ” Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren’t voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn’t vote for any Democrat for president—white, black or brown.” Ha ha, Ron Fournier begins sentences about poll results with the phrase, “Lots of.”
* “Not all whites are prejudiced.” WRONG.
* “Indeed, more whites say good things about blacks than say bad things, the poll shows.” Oh how cute. Here’s an idea: let’s have a “national conversation” about how many cubic centimeters of cow sheet Ron Fournier can fit inside his mouth.
* “Race is not the biggest factor driving Democrats and independents away from Obama. Doubts about his competency loom even larger, the poll indicates. More than a quarter of all Democrats expressed doubt that Obama can bring about the change they want, and they are likely to vote against him because of that.” OK duder, but isn’t the topic at hand here, uh, the effect of race? OHHH, we get it — Ronald is trying to tell us that these “doubts about his competency” stem from the fact that he’s black! Young. And black!
* “Given a choice of several positive and negative adjectives that might describe blacks, 20 percent of all whites said the word ‘violent’ strongly applied. Among other words, 22 percent agreed with ‘boastful,’ 29 percent ‘complaining,’ 13 percent ‘lazy’ and 11 percent ‘irresponsible.’ When asked about positive adjectives, whites were more likely to stay on the fence than give a strongly positive assessment.” Look everyone, your Associated Press is admitting that it conducted a textbook racist push poll! How MAVERICKY. Or maybe the pollsters got confused and failed to understand that people were using those adjectives to describe the Associated Press.
* “‘We still don’t like black people,’ said John Clouse, 57, reflecting the sentiments of his pals gathered at a coffee shop in Somerset, Ohio.” Wait until Barack Obama hears what John Clouse, 57, said about black people. Barack Obama has a 20 percent chance of having a “violent” reaction, unless that 13 percent of him that is “lazy” takes over instead. But when you take the net of those two numbers, it’s clear that Barack Obama will rape 7 percent of America’s white kindergartners. Thanks, AP and Yahoo! We guess we should decide if we’re racist now.
* “I HATE NEGROES SO MUCH, THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE.” Ah, it looks like Ron Fournier forced himself to edit this out before publication.

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Posted: 20 September 2008 05:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Same old racist bullchit from the obama camp.. “If you don’t vote for me, you’re a racist” obama whines.

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Posted: 20 September 2008 06:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Actually, the first Jindal-Blanco race is a good picture of what may happen in November.  Bobby Jindal never gave North Louisianians, and many in the south, a good reason to vote for a non-white conservative over a white sorta-conservative.  The presidential race may shake out the same way - it’s a bit of subconscious racism, almost, but if he were more to the right he’d probably win.  Of course, there are going to be MANY blacks who will vote for him simply because he’s black, NOT because of his crazy leftist views.

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Posted: 20 September 2008 07:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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your slogans and cliches dont add up to anything

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Posted: 20 September 2008 08:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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He seems to continually show bad judgment, all his life.  I’ve always been a registered democrat, but I can’t vote for this man.

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Posted: 20 September 2008 09:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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DeWayne Guice - 20 September 2008 07:33 PM

My main concern is not if he is black or white, it is his alleged ties to the Nation of Islam. I simply can’t trust him with the security of my nation.

He’s just friendly with Farrakhan, but Obama isn’t a Muslim.  However, he DOES appear to be an adherent of Black Liberation Theology, which has some interesting Marxist roots (not a political exaggeration).  He also has long-term ties to several on the extreme left (ACORN, for instance, and the recently elected head of...Kenya?) .  I think most if it was political expedience at the time, and his policies won’t swing THAT far to the left.  He’s a Chicago pol who made the proper ties there to get elected.

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Posted: 21 September 2008 05:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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DeWayne Guice - 21 September 2008 08:42 AM

Being frinedly to Farrakhan and the Rev. Wright is enough of a red flag to have me endorce the other ticket.

Were you and your daddy and your daddy’s daddy George Wallace voters?

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Posted: 22 September 2008 06:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I agree, his alliances are of great concern to me. I know a few black people in my area who are registering to vote. They have never voted before and plan to vote for Obama because he is black.

Isn’t voting for him because he is black the same as not voting for him because he is black? Flip sides of the same coin. Were are the polls for that one?

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Posted: 22 September 2008 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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The only one`s I keep seeing crying about racial views are the republicans here. That is understandable when the man they picked blames a bad economy
on the imagination of the american people.

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Posted: 22 September 2008 10:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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dirty dan - 22 September 2008 06:48 AM

Thats My Name Too - 21 September 2008 05:19 PM
DeWayne Guice - 21 September 2008 08:42 AM
Being frinedly to Farrakhan and the Rev. Wright is enough of a red flag to have me endorce the other ticket.

Were you and your daddy and your daddy’s daddy George Wallace voters?

Nope. George Wallace was a Democrat. My family doesn’t vote for idiots and racists.

I would bet the farm that you and your family voted for Republicans George W. Bush and David Duke, that is if you are even old enough to have voted for Duke when he ran for governor.

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Posted: 22 September 2008 11:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Why would you put George Bush and David Duke together? Are you saying that George Bush is a racist?

That’s a stretch for a moron like you.

FWIW I didn’t vote for Duke for Gov or Senator..... Although Teddy Kennedy’s statement that he wouldn’t sit next to Duke made me want to.

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Posted: 22 September 2008 11:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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roux - 22 September 2008 11:05 AM

Why would you put George Bush and David Duke together? Are you saying that George Bush is a racist?

That’s a stretch for a moron like you.

FWIW I didn’t vote for Duke for Gov or Senator..... Although Teddy Kennedy’s statement that he wouldn’t sit next to Duke made me want to.

No, George W. Bush is the idiot.  Duke the racist.  Both Republicans.  Both likely got votes from dirty dizzle and his people, which contradicts his statement that he doesn’t vote for idiots or racists.

I thought about indicating the above in my original post, but I assumed bolding danni’s quote like I did was sufficient to enable the rightwing pea brains to understand.

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Posted: 22 September 2008 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Leon Trotsky - 22 September 2008 11:11 AM

roux - 22 September 2008 11:05 AM
Why would you put George Bush and David Duke together? Are you saying that George Bush is a racist?

That’s a stretch for a moron like you.

FWIW I didn’t vote for Duke for Gov or Senator..... Although Teddy Kennedy’s statement that he wouldn’t sit next to Duke made me want to.

No, George W. Bush is the idiot.  Duke the racist.  Both Republicans.  Both likely got votes from dirty dizzle and his people, which contradicts his statement that he doesn’t vote for idiots or racists.

I thought about indicating the above in my original post, but I assumed bolding danni’s quote like I did was sufficient to enable the rightwing pea brains to understand.

You seem to know what everyone has done or thinks. Got your swami cap on today? Trot.

You are an idiot, who with every post makes himself look worse.

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Posted: 22 September 2008 11:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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roux - 22 September 2008 11:16 AM

You seem to know what everyone has done or thinks. Got your swami cap on today? Trot.

Look, I know it is possible danni and her family voted for EWE and Al Gore and John Kerry, but you don’t need to participate in her Pedro game circle to doubt either of these possibilities is remotely likely.

roux - 22 September 2008 11:16 AM

You are an idiot, who with every post makes himself look worse.

Blah blah.  Some of you are like broken records with the ad hominems here.

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Posted: 22 September 2008 03:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Leon Trotsky - 22 September 2008 11:34 AM

roux - 22 September 2008 11:16 AM
You seem to know what everyone has done or thinks. Got your swami cap on today? Trot.

Look, I know it is possible danni and her family voted for EWE and Al Gore and John Kerry, but you don’t need to participate in her Pedro game circle to doubt either of these possibilities is remotely likely.

roux - 22 September 2008 11:16 AM

You are an idiot, who with every post makes himself look worse.

Blah blah.  Some of you are like broken records with the ad hominems here.

Roux, you trying to get my daily award???  tongue wink

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